Mr. Falcon

Joined

• started 63 topics
• posted 1,292 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Mr. Falcon

• 
  21

  Are disfellowshipings proportionately increasing or decreasing?

  by yadda yadda 2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been re-reading chapter 10 of ray franz's brilliant book "in search of christian freedom" (must reading for every borean-like jw and former jw), and i note that on page 315 it says that in 1995 there were 36,638 disfellowshipped, and 37,426 deepfried in 1996.. are there any statistics that show whether the number of expelled persons is increasing or decreasing proportionate to the number of publishers each year since then?

  .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Mr. Falcon

  this is one of the strage statistics that always confused me (before I woke up of course; now the answer is obvious). They would always brag in their Kingdom Ministry and at conventions about how there's been "growth" of some number like 100,000 or whatever. But in some more serious talks they would solemnly announce how they have lost 70,000 to DFing. Soooooo..... you're growth isn't 100,000. it's only 30,000, right?

  At least be honest in your figures.

  If I have a dozen donuts and somone gave me 6 more, but I already ate 6, then I still have only a dozen donuts.
• 
  51

  what are the JW rules once baptised??

  by Kate82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on my other post 'thinking of becoming a jw' people mentioned that once i was baptised i would be told / given rules of what i can / cant do, things like: how i act, dress, how i can have sex with my husband??

  what i can and cant eat ( according to some research ive done).

  i would be really interested to hear as many of these rules now - as i think its too late after one is baptised.. i would be grateful of as many as possible about anything any topic even thouse i havent mentioned.. thanks x.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Mr. Falcon

  The rules are quite simple. there is only one rule:

  
• 
  8

  Report from a Bethelite after Hurrican Sandy

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  found this here: http://www.jwtalk.net/forum/read.php?49,132014,page=2.

  "thank you so much for your concern over our family in the path of the .

  storm.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Mr. Falcon

  Sadly, I highly doubt any of the Bethelites can turn off their telescreens.

  
• 
  114

  Atheism->Deism->Theism

  by sabastious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have noticed that there is a lot of angst directed towards believers and non believers so i thought i would make a thread explaining how it all works from my own perspective.

  the reality is that neither believers nor unbelievers are right or wrong, they simply are, if that makes sense.

  to better understand the perspective ideologies i have constructed a map so to speak of how it all works.. the fact is that we are all products of our environment, we cannot escape this at first, but we can eventually, but first we have to accept that we were first a product of our environment.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Mr. Falcon

  "You know what I haven't had in awhile? Big League Chew."
• 
  114

  Atheism->Deism->Theism

  by sabastious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have noticed that there is a lot of angst directed towards believers and non believers so i thought i would make a thread explaining how it all works from my own perspective.

  the reality is that neither believers nor unbelievers are right or wrong, they simply are, if that makes sense.

  to better understand the perspective ideologies i have constructed a map so to speak of how it all works.. the fact is that we are all products of our environment, we cannot escape this at first, but we can eventually, but first we have to accept that we were first a product of our environment.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Mr. Falcon

  what Zid said.
• 
  114

  Atheism->Deism->Theism

  by sabastious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have noticed that there is a lot of angst directed towards believers and non believers so i thought i would make a thread explaining how it all works from my own perspective.

  the reality is that neither believers nor unbelievers are right or wrong, they simply are, if that makes sense.

  to better understand the perspective ideologies i have constructed a map so to speak of how it all works.. the fact is that we are all products of our environment, we cannot escape this at first, but we can eventually, but first we have to accept that we were first a product of our environment.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Mr. Falcon

  haha nice, James. good point.
• 
  114

  Atheism->Deism->Theism

  by sabastious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have noticed that there is a lot of angst directed towards believers and non believers so i thought i would make a thread explaining how it all works from my own perspective.

  the reality is that neither believers nor unbelievers are right or wrong, they simply are, if that makes sense.

  to better understand the perspective ideologies i have constructed a map so to speak of how it all works.. the fact is that we are all products of our environment, we cannot escape this at first, but we can eventually, but first we have to accept that we were first a product of our environment.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Mr. Falcon

  But, if one chooses, that unbelief can evolve into belief and if and when it does, it is "true belief."

  I'm holding a pear in my hand. I really want to believe it's an apple, so everyday I sit in my car on my commute and argue with myself that it is indeed an apple, not a pear that is in my hand. After much self-searching, I convince myself that I am, in fact, holding an apple. So I take a bite. It tastes just like a pear. and when i look at it, why, it's is actually a pear. No amount of self-exploration of my own mind will change that pear to an apple.

  Fact is fact. Science is fact. Math is fact. Religious and metaphysical feeling are just that - feelings.

  Hence the difference between "true belief" and true understanding.
• 
  51

  What is your view of miracles

  by FutureAndAHope in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am a born again christian, not a jehovah's witness.

  i have had many experiences with god, hearing god's voice, seeing minor miracles, have seen a woman healed instantly through prayer in jesus name.

  what is your view on the miraculous.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Mr. Falcon

  FutureAndAHope,

  This is are really interesting topic! You make excellent points; I've always been so fascinated with the miracles that our Heavenly Father sends us. Sadly, too many people don't believe in miracles, and if only they believed like I believe, they'd get by. As believers, it's easy to get discouraged and think, "Ya know, if only THEY (unbelievers) would believe in miracles, then so would I."

  good thread! BUMP!
• 
  60

  In Jehovah's Witnesses- Elders Have Rights- other JW's Don't- 10/15 WT

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the 10/15 watchtower study edition on pg.

  12 is the article " what kind of spirit do you show ?

  " right away this article starts drawing the line of demarcation in the sand between who has the right to make decisions within jehovah's witnesses and who does not have the right to do so.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Mr. Falcon

  Mr. F

  This weekend, my still-in JW father cornered me and began grilling me about whether I was going to "come back" or not. I told him I will consider it the very second that the WTBS revised and corrects their completely bullsh*t policy on dealing with child abuse. (there's alot of other things I despise about this cult, but hey, I love using the child abuse angle because they really have NO comeback for it)

  Anywho, somewhere along the conversation he tossed out that classic JW apologist yarn about "well we have to remember that they aren't perfect men blah-blah-blah". My response:

  "Look Dad, that whole "imperfect men" thing is TIRED. Of course they aren't perfect, nobody ever said they were. And trust me, if there was anybody who would be the poster children for imperfection, it's these guys. So that's not the issue. The issue is that if you are going to weild a level of authority and influence over people's lives so much so that you can greatly affect them for better or worse, you CANNOT remove yourself from the level of responsibilty that you have taken upon yourself. And if you royally f*ck up someone's life because you tried to play Judge, Jury & Executioner, then I'm sorry but a simple shrugging "Well, I'm imperfect" IS NOT GOING TO CUT IT."

  My father's reaction:

  Keep it slappin',

  Mr. F (haha you see what i did there? I slay me!)
• 
  25

  I'm Extremely Sad

  by JetSetter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've never written on this site.

  i've been inactive for about 6 years and glad i'm out.. i'm in my late 40's.

  so about 2 years ago, i go on facebook and looked up this brother i use to like when i was in my 20's he was a bethelite.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Mr. Falcon

  that's heavy, baby. damn i'm sorry.